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As a died-in-the wool Trekkie and fan of all the series (except Enterprise simply because I am uneducated in it and thus have no opinion), I enjoyed the latest incarnation of Trek.
Was it Yesterday's Enterprise?
No. (Sorry, couldn't help it.)
Was it enjoyable?
Yes.
I loved the subtle nods to all of the series in their own way (and they were subtle - not in your face and distracting for non-Trekkies - with the exception of the Enterprise nod, which even I got). And the Galaxy Quest homage? Niiiiiice.
And there was Pauley! (Blink and you'll miss him!)
There was one thing that bothered me, but I can live with it. That is the Spock/Uhura thing they had going on. I wasn't exactly squicked by it, but I'm not entirely on board, either...and it was a bit too in your face for me. Subtlety would have made this much more palatable for me, but again, I wasn't repulsed. Just...not sure if I'd order seconds. EDIT: In thinking more on this, I do like it for what it gave us (read Kirk's reaction) and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship. Hm...growing on me, this idea is, but I stay with still a bit much for me. For now...
The 90210 aspects that I was concerned with prior to seeing the film were not terrible, so that was good.
Oh, and the guy who played Bones? Karl Urban? Sure, his looks were off a bit, but he could be painted purple and running around naked, and I'd still think he was Leonard McCoy. Man alive, that man deserves a medal. His voice was spot-on and his mannerisms were PERFECT. Loved him. Can't say enough about how absolutely brilliant he was. Love, love, love, love, love. Yep, five - as always, my highest rating.
Quinto as Spock was also dead on, but not as perfect as Bones.
Pine as Kirk? Hm...was very much my hesitation in seeing this film. Too pin-up and too much with the punk kid thing, you know? But...the more I looked at him, the more I saw it. I'm fine with it. Just enough Shat to be livable and not enough to be a burden.
Scotty? Sorry, Simon...good, but not fab and you know why. *goes to read why he did the accent that way again* Very livable, though, and I still love my Pegg. Honestly, this is a minor point. I am not a Trek nit-picker (seriously, lighten up, people). New portrayal, new accent. Ok...but...not quite 100% for me. Then again, we didn't see you much, so...uncertain.
Uhura and Chekov - meh on acting/casting, though I loved Chekov's mad dash through the ship to work the transporters. So very ST4. Also, Uhura...love how they portrayed her with the exception of that one glitch I mentioned above (which is again growing on me, as is the casting here). In TOS, Uhura was a glorified secretary, easy on the glory. In this film, she is educated, ballsy, and poised. Loved that.
Sulu - I was pleased, but we didn't see enough for me to make a valid decision. A little too bad ass with the sword, but we know he likes to use one, so I was ok with it. (Witness The Naked Time if you must.) And his little grin at the end? Sigh...we stand ready to assist you, Enterprise.
Sarek - seamless, and that is truly a compliment.
They sure set it up for more, and I like how they did that. Don't have to worry about continuity in an AU, huh? Just treat this film like a separate entity and you'll be fine. I went into it with that mindset, and as far as I'm concerned, this one can live long and prosper. Nice work. As for the sure-to-come sequels, we shall see.
Moving on:
THE END CREDITS ARE LOVE. Musically, that is. And look, there's Paul McGillion, as Barracks Master.
Sigh...
As for the story itself, it was fine. Not exactly knocking my socks off, but perfectly acceptable. I'm a character girl, folks. Plot can suck it to characters any day. In that vein, I loved this film.
Oh, and one more thing. The direct quote from ST6, my fave ST film? Beauty.
Alright, now for the moment of truth, very much off the cuff (though it really is apples and oranges, I shall endeavor to function adequately): Undiscovered Country > 2009 > Kahn > Insurrection > First Contact >> Nemesis >>> Voyage Home > Generations > Search for Spock > Final Frontier > The Motion Picture.
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As a died-in-the wool Trekkie and fan of all the series (except Enterprise simply because I am uneducated in it and thus have no opinion), I enjoyed the latest incarnation of Trek.
Was it Yesterday's Enterprise?
No. (Sorry, couldn't help it.)
Was it enjoyable?
Yes.
I loved the subtle nods to all of the series in their own way (and they were subtle - not in your face and distracting for non-Trekkies - with the exception of the Enterprise nod, which even I got). And the Galaxy Quest homage? Niiiiiice.
And there was Pauley! (Blink and you'll miss him!)
There was one thing that bothered me, but I can live with it. That is the Spock/Uhura thing they had going on. I wasn't exactly squicked by it, but I'm not entirely on board, either...and it was a bit too in your face for me. Subtlety would have made this much more palatable for me, but again, I wasn't repulsed. Just...not sure if I'd order seconds. EDIT: In thinking more on this, I do like it for what it gave us (read Kirk's reaction) and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship. Hm...growing on me, this idea is, but I stay with still a bit much for me. For now...
The 90210 aspects that I was concerned with prior to seeing the film were not terrible, so that was good.
Oh, and the guy who played Bones? Karl Urban? Sure, his looks were off a bit, but he could be painted purple and running around naked, and I'd still think he was Leonard McCoy. Man alive, that man deserves a medal. His voice was spot-on and his mannerisms were PERFECT. Loved him. Can't say enough about how absolutely brilliant he was. Love, love, love, love, love. Yep, five - as always, my highest rating.
Quinto as Spock was also dead on, but not as perfect as Bones.
Pine as Kirk? Hm...was very much my hesitation in seeing this film. Too pin-up and too much with the punk kid thing, you know? But...the more I looked at him, the more I saw it. I'm fine with it. Just enough Shat to be livable and not enough to be a burden.
Scotty? Sorry, Simon...good, but not fab and you know why. *goes to read why he did the accent that way again* Very livable, though, and I still love my Pegg. Honestly, this is a minor point. I am not a Trek nit-picker (seriously, lighten up, people). New portrayal, new accent. Ok...but...not quite 100% for me. Then again, we didn't see you much, so...uncertain.
Uhura and Chekov - meh on acting/casting, though I loved Chekov's mad dash through the ship to work the transporters. So very ST4. Also, Uhura...love how they portrayed her with the exception of that one glitch I mentioned above (which is again growing on me, as is the casting here). In TOS, Uhura was a glorified secretary, easy on the glory. In this film, she is educated, ballsy, and poised. Loved that.
Sulu - I was pleased, but we didn't see enough for me to make a valid decision. A little too bad ass with the sword, but we know he likes to use one, so I was ok with it. (Witness The Naked Time if you must.) And his little grin at the end? Sigh...we stand ready to assist you, Enterprise.
Sarek - seamless, and that is truly a compliment.
They sure set it up for more, and I like how they did that. Don't have to worry about continuity in an AU, huh? Just treat this film like a separate entity and you'll be fine. I went into it with that mindset, and as far as I'm concerned, this one can live long and prosper. Nice work. As for the sure-to-come sequels, we shall see.
Moving on:
THE END CREDITS ARE LOVE. Musically, that is. And look, there's Paul McGillion, as Barracks Master.
Sigh...
As for the story itself, it was fine. Not exactly knocking my socks off, but perfectly acceptable. I'm a character girl, folks. Plot can suck it to characters any day. In that vein, I loved this film.
Oh, and one more thing. The direct quote from ST6, my fave ST film? Beauty.
Alright, now for the moment of truth, very much off the cuff (though it really is apples and oranges, I shall endeavor to function adequately): Undiscovered Country > 2009 > Kahn > Insurrection > First Contact >> Nemesis >>> Voyage Home > Generations > Search for Spock > Final Frontier > The Motion Picture.
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Date: May. 10th, 2009 04:19 am (UTC)Peter Jackson said something in an interview long before any of us had seen the first of the LotR movie trilogy. Something to the effect of (and I am beyond paraphrasing here) "I could try really hard to make this movie into something that would please all the fans, but if I did, what we'd end up with is a watered-down version that wouldn't excite anybody. I consider myself just one fan lucky enough to take what I value most of LotR and present it to the rest of the world in a really dynamic way." From that moment, I was determined to if not love the LotR movies, at the very least respect them, because I thought it was a very healthy and mature attitude of him to take. And of course, I ended up loving the movies.
I guess I'm just impressed by the overall reaction I'm getting from honest, heart-and-soul Trek fans, such as yourself and such as Seb, about this movie. That being, "It was great! Here are the five or six details I would have done differently!" without an overwhelming bucketloads of resentment or malice. It makes me... happy. :-)
I'm a casual Trek fan, at best. I know the basic characters and their relationships to each other, the basic premise, approximately 1.5 episodes of TOS and all of the movies, and while it never sucked up my soul the way subsequent fandoms have, I totally respect its place in the hallowed halls of geekdom history. I kind of thought you might be interested in my thoughts on Spock/Uhura, based on your wavering feelings cited here, most specifically: and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship. I'm going to be lazy and directly post my thought's on the matter as I typed up in
If you want some entertainment, you can go read my utterly hyperactive initial reaction post from yesterday. Hahaha. It's going to make me laugh for years to come.
Karl Urban was amazing. I know what you mean about his performance. Karl Urban is one of the actors I fangirl in a huge way and not once in the movie did I fixate on "Squee!! Karl Urban!!" which really says something because I am an extremely shallow and immature fangirl when it comes to my boys. *glances at Eomer poster hanging three feet away on closet door* I was so thrilled when he got this part because he was finally being given a role that was not the "Testosterone Now" poster boy character. He got a chance to flex his acting muscles in a huge way, and he didn't just answer the call, he hit a grand slam out of the park and into the next state.
Um, when exactly is Paul's cameo, plot-wise? Because I had my eyes open for him the whole movie and didn't spot him. I'm going again tomorrow afternoon with my mom.
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Date: May. 10th, 2009 04:33 am (UTC)Need to respond to seb, too...zzzzz.
Apologies to all if I make no sense above and the ranking, well, one moment in time.
Oh, Pauley is the guy who tells Kirk he's on suspension when they are shipping out. Hubby spotted him, I must confess. I had my eyes peeled, too, but I blinked.
Also: great icon. Poor dog. ;)
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Date: May. 11th, 2009 03:38 am (UTC)I also ONLY JUST GOT THE RED-SHIRT THING when I was watching the paratrooper scene the second time around. And then I laughed for a while. Both at the joke and at myself, quietly in my seat. ;-) What do you mean Galaxy Quest nod, btw? How could I miss a Galaxy Quest nod? Am I so very obtuse? *sigh*
Haha, I love that icon too, and I can't believe I've used it as much as I have! (granted, this movie gave me a pretty unexpected opportunity). I'm really fond of this one too, which I had commissioned after my Voyager binge last summer.
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Date: May. 11th, 2009 04:09 am (UTC)And yes, I agree with you on spotting him. There is just so much going on that you aren't paying attention to the speaker, and he has the hat and all that.
And yes, no accent. You do know Paul does not speak with an accent in real life, right?
And OMG YES! The red shirt. I must confess that I missed it, too at first. I was obsessing over why they were all wearing different color suits (one gold, one blue, one red) for the longest time. Then it hit me. Awesome.
As for GQ, I'm probably making it up. It probably was not on purpose. BUT...when the Enterprise first jumps out of warp over Vulcan into the remains of the fleet, and the one large piece of debris (saucer section of some ship?) scrapes slowly over the nacelle, all I could think of was Tommy piloting the Protector out of spacedock. That and Sulu forgetting to turn off the external inertial dampeners to begin with reminded me of my favorite homage/parody movie of all time.
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Date: May. 11th, 2009 04:29 am (UTC)And yes, to avoid convoluting this thread any further, I'll say in this comment, that I adored Naomi Wildman from her birth all the way up to her future self in that ep where the ship is all fractured into different time periods (did you know the actress who played grown-up Naomi was one of the ones who slaps Jack Sparrow in the first PotC? haha). Naomi rocks. I only actually made one Voyager vid, and it was entirely focused on the children of Voyager (Naomi and the Borg kids) and their most special mentors, Seven and Neelix. So yeah. I kind of heart Naomi in a huge ol' way. LOL
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Date: May. 11th, 2009 04:36 am (UTC)You should check out ADB. It's most excellent. (And with that, my squirrel duty is done!)
I love Paul's accent.
He talked about his role as Carson and having to say all the medical stuff in a Scots voice. This is exactly what he said to my memory:
"I've got a brother who's a doctor. So, I'd call him up and I'd say 'what's this word, what does it mean, and can you say it with a Scottish accent?'"
It was awesome. Yeah, I miss that perfect accent. Hearing it every day growing up from parents and your five older sibs will do that to ya, I suppose.
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Date: May. 11th, 2009 03:35 am (UTC)Truthfully, I've only seen about a third of his work, but back in the LotR heyday my crush was so strong that among our little circle I was referred to as "The Rightful Queen of Rohan."
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