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As a died-in-the wool Trekkie and fan of all the series (except Enterprise simply because I am uneducated in it and thus have no opinion), I enjoyed the latest incarnation of Trek.
Was it Yesterday's Enterprise?
No. (Sorry, couldn't help it.)
Was it enjoyable?
Yes.
I loved the subtle nods to all of the series in their own way (and they were subtle - not in your face and distracting for non-Trekkies - with the exception of the Enterprise nod, which even I got). And the Galaxy Quest homage? Niiiiiice.
And there was Pauley! (Blink and you'll miss him!)
There was one thing that bothered me, but I can live with it. That is the Spock/Uhura thing they had going on. I wasn't exactly squicked by it, but I'm not entirely on board, either...and it was a bit too in your face for me. Subtlety would have made this much more palatable for me, but again, I wasn't repulsed. Just...not sure if I'd order seconds. EDIT: In thinking more on this, I do like it for what it gave us (read Kirk's reaction) and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship. Hm...growing on me, this idea is, but I stay with still a bit much for me. For now...
The 90210 aspects that I was concerned with prior to seeing the film were not terrible, so that was good.
Oh, and the guy who played Bones? Karl Urban? Sure, his looks were off a bit, but he could be painted purple and running around naked, and I'd still think he was Leonard McCoy. Man alive, that man deserves a medal. His voice was spot-on and his mannerisms were PERFECT. Loved him. Can't say enough about how absolutely brilliant he was. Love, love, love, love, love. Yep, five - as always, my highest rating.
Quinto as Spock was also dead on, but not as perfect as Bones.
Pine as Kirk? Hm...was very much my hesitation in seeing this film. Too pin-up and too much with the punk kid thing, you know? But...the more I looked at him, the more I saw it. I'm fine with it. Just enough Shat to be livable and not enough to be a burden.
Scotty? Sorry, Simon...good, but not fab and you know why. *goes to read why he did the accent that way again* Very livable, though, and I still love my Pegg. Honestly, this is a minor point. I am not a Trek nit-picker (seriously, lighten up, people). New portrayal, new accent. Ok...but...not quite 100% for me. Then again, we didn't see you much, so...uncertain.
Uhura and Chekov - meh on acting/casting, though I loved Chekov's mad dash through the ship to work the transporters. So very ST4. Also, Uhura...love how they portrayed her with the exception of that one glitch I mentioned above (which is again growing on me, as is the casting here). In TOS, Uhura was a glorified secretary, easy on the glory. In this film, she is educated, ballsy, and poised. Loved that.
Sulu - I was pleased, but we didn't see enough for me to make a valid decision. A little too bad ass with the sword, but we know he likes to use one, so I was ok with it. (Witness The Naked Time if you must.) And his little grin at the end? Sigh...we stand ready to assist you, Enterprise.
Sarek - seamless, and that is truly a compliment.
They sure set it up for more, and I like how they did that. Don't have to worry about continuity in an AU, huh? Just treat this film like a separate entity and you'll be fine. I went into it with that mindset, and as far as I'm concerned, this one can live long and prosper. Nice work. As for the sure-to-come sequels, we shall see.
Moving on:
THE END CREDITS ARE LOVE. Musically, that is. And look, there's Paul McGillion, as Barracks Master.
Sigh...
As for the story itself, it was fine. Not exactly knocking my socks off, but perfectly acceptable. I'm a character girl, folks. Plot can suck it to characters any day. In that vein, I loved this film.
Oh, and one more thing. The direct quote from ST6, my fave ST film? Beauty.
Alright, now for the moment of truth, very much off the cuff (though it really is apples and oranges, I shall endeavor to function adequately): Undiscovered Country > 2009 > Kahn > Insurrection > First Contact >> Nemesis >>> Voyage Home > Generations > Search for Spock > Final Frontier > The Motion Picture.
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As a died-in-the wool Trekkie and fan of all the series (except Enterprise simply because I am uneducated in it and thus have no opinion), I enjoyed the latest incarnation of Trek.
Was it Yesterday's Enterprise?
No. (Sorry, couldn't help it.)
Was it enjoyable?
Yes.
I loved the subtle nods to all of the series in their own way (and they were subtle - not in your face and distracting for non-Trekkies - with the exception of the Enterprise nod, which even I got). And the Galaxy Quest homage? Niiiiiice.
And there was Pauley! (Blink and you'll miss him!)
There was one thing that bothered me, but I can live with it. That is the Spock/Uhura thing they had going on. I wasn't exactly squicked by it, but I'm not entirely on board, either...and it was a bit too in your face for me. Subtlety would have made this much more palatable for me, but again, I wasn't repulsed. Just...not sure if I'd order seconds. EDIT: In thinking more on this, I do like it for what it gave us (read Kirk's reaction) and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship. Hm...growing on me, this idea is, but I stay with still a bit much for me. For now...
The 90210 aspects that I was concerned with prior to seeing the film were not terrible, so that was good.
Oh, and the guy who played Bones? Karl Urban? Sure, his looks were off a bit, but he could be painted purple and running around naked, and I'd still think he was Leonard McCoy. Man alive, that man deserves a medal. His voice was spot-on and his mannerisms were PERFECT. Loved him. Can't say enough about how absolutely brilliant he was. Love, love, love, love, love. Yep, five - as always, my highest rating.
Quinto as Spock was also dead on, but not as perfect as Bones.
Pine as Kirk? Hm...was very much my hesitation in seeing this film. Too pin-up and too much with the punk kid thing, you know? But...the more I looked at him, the more I saw it. I'm fine with it. Just enough Shat to be livable and not enough to be a burden.
Scotty? Sorry, Simon...good, but not fab and you know why. *goes to read why he did the accent that way again* Very livable, though, and I still love my Pegg. Honestly, this is a minor point. I am not a Trek nit-picker (seriously, lighten up, people). New portrayal, new accent. Ok...but...not quite 100% for me. Then again, we didn't see you much, so...uncertain.
Uhura and Chekov - meh on acting/casting, though I loved Chekov's mad dash through the ship to work the transporters. So very ST4. Also, Uhura...love how they portrayed her with the exception of that one glitch I mentioned above (which is again growing on me, as is the casting here). In TOS, Uhura was a glorified secretary, easy on the glory. In this film, she is educated, ballsy, and poised. Loved that.
Sulu - I was pleased, but we didn't see enough for me to make a valid decision. A little too bad ass with the sword, but we know he likes to use one, so I was ok with it. (Witness The Naked Time if you must.) And his little grin at the end? Sigh...we stand ready to assist you, Enterprise.
Sarek - seamless, and that is truly a compliment.
They sure set it up for more, and I like how they did that. Don't have to worry about continuity in an AU, huh? Just treat this film like a separate entity and you'll be fine. I went into it with that mindset, and as far as I'm concerned, this one can live long and prosper. Nice work. As for the sure-to-come sequels, we shall see.
Moving on:
THE END CREDITS ARE LOVE. Musically, that is. And look, there's Paul McGillion, as Barracks Master.
Sigh...
As for the story itself, it was fine. Not exactly knocking my socks off, but perfectly acceptable. I'm a character girl, folks. Plot can suck it to characters any day. In that vein, I loved this film.
Oh, and one more thing. The direct quote from ST6, my fave ST film? Beauty.
Alright, now for the moment of truth, very much off the cuff (though it really is apples and oranges, I shall endeavor to function adequately): Undiscovered Country > 2009 > Kahn > Insurrection > First Contact >> Nemesis >>> Voyage Home > Generations > Search for Spock > Final Frontier > The Motion Picture.
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Date: May. 10th, 2009 04:19 am (UTC)Peter Jackson said something in an interview long before any of us had seen the first of the LotR movie trilogy. Something to the effect of (and I am beyond paraphrasing here) "I could try really hard to make this movie into something that would please all the fans, but if I did, what we'd end up with is a watered-down version that wouldn't excite anybody. I consider myself just one fan lucky enough to take what I value most of LotR and present it to the rest of the world in a really dynamic way." From that moment, I was determined to if not love the LotR movies, at the very least respect them, because I thought it was a very healthy and mature attitude of him to take. And of course, I ended up loving the movies.
I guess I'm just impressed by the overall reaction I'm getting from honest, heart-and-soul Trek fans, such as yourself and such as Seb, about this movie. That being, "It was great! Here are the five or six details I would have done differently!" without an overwhelming bucketloads of resentment or malice. It makes me... happy. :-)
I'm a casual Trek fan, at best. I know the basic characters and their relationships to each other, the basic premise, approximately 1.5 episodes of TOS and all of the movies, and while it never sucked up my soul the way subsequent fandoms have, I totally respect its place in the hallowed halls of geekdom history. I kind of thought you might be interested in my thoughts on Spock/Uhura, based on your wavering feelings cited here, most specifically: and I do like that it fleshed out Uruha even more than she already was in this film...more about her than the ship. I'm going to be lazy and directly post my thought's on the matter as I typed up in
If you want some entertainment, you can go read my utterly hyperactive initial reaction post from yesterday. Hahaha. It's going to make me laugh for years to come.
Karl Urban was amazing. I know what you mean about his performance. Karl Urban is one of the actors I fangirl in a huge way and not once in the movie did I fixate on "Squee!! Karl Urban!!" which really says something because I am an extremely shallow and immature fangirl when it comes to my boys. *glances at Eomer poster hanging three feet away on closet door* I was so thrilled when he got this part because he was finally being given a role that was not the "Testosterone Now" poster boy character. He got a chance to flex his acting muscles in a huge way, and he didn't just answer the call, he hit a grand slam out of the park and into the next state.
Um, when exactly is Paul's cameo, plot-wise? Because I had my eyes open for him the whole movie and didn't spot him. I'm going again tomorrow afternoon with my mom.
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Date: May. 10th, 2009 01:14 pm (UTC)I read in TV Guide that J.J. is already confirmed to produce the sequel. Come a day even Scotty won't be able to keep Paramount's capitalism flying. :P
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Date: May. 12th, 2009 12:30 am (UTC)Indeed. I knew him from LOTR, Riddick, Doom, etc. and already loved him but by the end of the first scene I was like 'can I have your babiez plez?'
with the exception of the Enterprise nod, which even I got
poor Porthos! :(
And there was Pauley! (Blink and you'll miss him!)
I saw, I (quietly) squeed. ^-^
Scotty? Sorry, Simon...good, but not fab and you know why.
yeah, me too. Although like you said we didn't see alot of him so that's still up in the air. I caught one time where the accent slipped and when I first heard him I kept thinking "Carson!" and waiting for an 'easy-peasy'. What can I say I'm an incurable Carons fan :)
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